Canada: pre-race 2017
Well, my tip proved
neither strong nor stable. It looked really close (four-thousandths
in it) after the first run in Q3, but Hamilton ended up on pole by a
day and a half.
In the first part of
qualifying we lost mostly those you might expect to toddle off.
Vandoorne was fastest to depart, follow by Stroll (but his team mate
made Q3, so questions about his speed won’t stop any time soon).
Magnussen, Ericsson and Wehrlein also exited stage left, with the
German touching the grass, spinning and ploughing backwards into the
barriers.
Sainz complained in Q2
of giving Kvyat a slipstream (as planned, on the main straight) but
the favour not being returned. Either way, the Russian qualified
11th, with the Spaniard 13th (his countryman,
Alonso, between the Toro Rossos). Grosjean and Palmer prop up the
departure list. I can’t see Palmer lasting beyond this season
(there was a rumour he might be replaced in-season. It would be
unusual, but not unprecedented).
In the first run of
qualifying Hamilton put in a stonking lap but Vettel got within
four-thousandths of a second (the Finns were a little way further
back). It seemed game on, but Hamilton went even faster and Vettel
couldn’t get close. Another front row for the title contenders, but
the bet was as silly as an unnecessary General Election (well,
perhaps not quite that silly).
Bottas edged Raikkonen
on the Finnish row and Red Bull occupied their 2017 customary
position of row three, Verstappen ahead of Ricciardo. Massa qualified
10 places ahead of his team mate, with Perez alongside him (Force
India looking tasty), Ocon and Hulkenberg rounding out the top 10.
Initial betting
thoughts:
Force India double
score
Perez top 6
Stroll DNF
Raikkonen podium
I’ve already backed
No Safety Car at 3, so if nothing leaps out at me I’m quite content
with that single bet (the odds have shortened slightly to 2.62.
Probably still value).
Force India are 1.66 to
double score. Too short. I think it’s eminently possible but it
only takes one of them to have a bad start or suffer misfortune/crash
to fail.
Perez is only 1.83 to
be top 6. That likely requires him to beat Massa (eminently possible)
and a Red Bull to DNF. However, the Red Bulls are, each, 4.33 to DNF,
so I’d be more inclined to back that than the Perez bet (Ocon’s
very much on pace, so there’s a chance the Frenchman could beat his
Mexican team mate too).
Stroll is 2.37 not to
be classified. He’s got 4 DNFs this year, although most of them
weren’t his fault (hit by other cars or reliability). Bit too short
to tempt, given those circumstances.
Raikkonen is 1.83 for a
podium. Reasonable, but not fantastic.
I’m inclined to avoid
the winner market because I think the Ferrari’s very good but
Hamilton has a great record here. Incidentally, Canada’s track has
the lowest pole-to-win conversion rate of any race (about a third).
The odds are too short for me (you’d need to lay down a slab of
money to make anything worth winning) but Betfair has, at the time of
writing odds of Hamilton and Vettel, respectively, of 1.8 and 2.92 to
win. You could, therefore, back both (relative stakes of 3.24 and 2
for roughly equal profit) and finish ahead if either wins, but the
profit margin would be something like 10% of the total stake. I am
not backing this myself, but thought it worth flagging up in case any
of you found it interesting.
Anyway, excepting the
Red Bull-rather-than-Perez bet above, none looked too appealing. A
quick perusal of the markets found the following:
Raikkonen, fastest lap,
8.5
Ricciardo/Verstappen,
not to be classified, 4.33 (each)
Ocon to win Betting
Group C, 1.72 [includes Hulkenberg, Sainz and Kvyat]
Perez to beat Massa,
2.1 [3:3 so far, but Massa usually better in qualifying]
Palmer to beat
Vandoorne, 2 [4:2 so far, Palmer has 2 DNFs to Vandoorne’s 4]
In the last three races
three different chaps (Rosberg, Raikkonen and Massa) have had fastest
laps. Assuming effort’s being put in, only one of the top four will
get it this year (indeed, the year Massa got it, 2014, the Williams
was rather tasty). If one of Vettel or Hamilton has the edge, then
the other will likely settle into 2nd to avoid stressing
the car, and Raikkonen does seem to like getting fastest laps. Odds of 8.5 are value, and it’s worth considering. Raikkonen has
had 2 fastest laps in 5 finishes, which is quite a high rate.
Ricciardo and
Verstappen each have 2 DNFs out of 6 races. So, a third of a chance
each of being knocked out. Therefore, 4.33 is more or less fair.
However, Canada does have some very tight spots, so if you get it
wrong (excepting the hairpin where there’s nice run-off) in most
places you’re either going to say hello to the wall or spin and
hope you can keep going.
Betting group C
(Ladbrokes) includes Ocon, Hulkenberg, Sainz and Kvyat. The Force
India is the most reliable of these and is also the fastest. The
potential spanner in the works is Hulkenberg (4) who starts right
behind Ocon. However, the Renault has typically gone backwards rather
than forwards in the race. If it were 2.5 or suchlike, I’d back
this, but 1.72 is a bit mean. Upon checking, Hulkenberg has beaten
Ocon only once in six races, and that was when they qualified,
respectively, 7th and 14th in Bahrain, and it
was by a single place. Hmm. Maybe this is worth backing.
Perez is 2.1 to beat
Massa. They’re even matched (3:3) in races so far, but usually
Massa has a qualifying advantage and this time the Brazilian is just
one place ahead. Pretty tempting.
Palmer to beat
Vandoorne is evens. The Briton has a 4:2 advantage, and has just 2
DNFs to Vandoorne’s 4. This is value.
So, a surfeit of
potential bets. Bit awkward, really, especially as I’ve already
made one. None of the ideas I had before checking the odds are long
enough to tempt.
The Raikkonen fastest
lap bet is tempting. Red Bull DNF isn’t long enough. Ocon’s odds
are short, but it’s a very likely outcome, if he finishes. Perez’s
odds are a little short (the Williams often slides down the order,
but not always). Palmer to beat Vandoorne is value, simply because
Vandoorne’s car has a 67% DNF rate.
Got to back the
Raikkonen bet. He’s had 1 of 3 fastest laps at the circuit in the
last 3 years and 2 out of 5 fastest laps in finishes this year. In
the joint fastest car, odds of 8.5 are too long. Those odds are
Ladbrokes. I set up a hedge at evens on Betfair (as an aside,
whenever I set up a hedge I do it in such a way to be more ahead if
the initial bet comes off than if it doesn’t, and usually to be up
one stake, net, if it does not).
So, tips (all
Ladbrokes, save the hedge):
[Carry-over from
yesterday – No Safety Car at 3. Currently 2.62. Probably still
value but for the records it stands at 3].
Raikkonen, fastest lap,
8.5 [hedged at evens on Betfair]
One stake split evenly
between: Ocon, 1.72, to win betting group C; Palmer to beat
Vandoorne, 2
The race starts at 7pm,
UK time. Let’s hope it’s a good one.
Morris Dancer
Good afternoon Mr Dancer,
ReplyDeleteMy F1 betting tilts between the enjoyment of turning a small profit and a little extra motivation to shout at the screen. In the pursuit of both I have now organised a little regular get-together at my local gentleman's club (www.cascalpe.gi) for watching the remaining races of the season.
I intended a very small amount on Hamilton to win the race must to maintain a little interest in events right at the front of the grid. Unfortunately in a state of slight confusion last night I managed to place that intended bet on Hamilton for the Championship instead, which was rather unfortunate. I also placed the intended bet, but we'll see whether my (small) mistake haunts me at the end of the season.
I'm going Perez for top 6. Force India are the 4th best team and the most consistent on the grid, He's taken points everywhere except Monaco. I know he's not traditionally been strong in Canada, but two top 6's and two very near misses this season and I'm okay with this.
Riccardio has hit podium in his last 2 races and he's on a bit of a flyer, plus winning here in 2014 so I'm taking him for a podium.
I've followed you in on the saftey car, and I'm repeating last race's Palmer for points bet. He's getting better and that bet is going to come off at decent odds before he's dumped.
The last race was a betting bloodbath for me. But I tipped SCON >9.5 seats over on PB (you see how TSE is trying to claim that incredibly profitable bet as one of "his" tips now it's come in?) I've got a very healthy account right now. So the Palmer bet lives to fight another day.
Mr. M, hope you and your fellows have a nice time at the club.
DeleteWell, it'll be Hamilton or Vettel. The German has a points advantage and a more flexible car but has also burnt through more components which will haunt him later in the calendar.
Perez top 6 is perfectly credible, just a bit too short for me (also, Ocon is a threat).
I'd be substantially surprised if Ricciardo got on the podium. That would suggest failures for cars ahead.
I think you overrate Palmer's chances. However, if that bet wins then probably mine will too, so let's hope we're both green.
Wish I'd followed that SCON bet. I was a bit lucky, though, in that I did back many individual constituencies for them. So, whilst the blues cost me in England, the Scots were splendid.
Smug mode = On
ReplyDeleteAnd Palmer was 11th so only one place away from winning that 8/1 as well. Kerching! Although I am still aware that the last race was sub-optimal for me, this compensated nicely.
WIN Podium Finish – Daniel Ricciardo @ 11/2
WIN Top 6 Finish – Sergio Perez @ 10/11
WIN Race Winner – Lewis Hamilton @ EVS
LOSE Safety Car – No @ 6/4
LOSE Points Finish – Jolyon Palmer @ 8/1
Great Ricciardo bet. Must admit, I didn't see that coming. Bit miffed, again, about the safety car. Ah well. And my judgement needs recalibrating because just about everything I was tempted by but didn't back came off too.
DeleteAnyway, good thinking, Batman. I also, flukily, finished ahead because I accidentally put too small a stake on Vettel, and the Raikkonen hedge, to my surprise, was matched.
Writing the post-race stuff now.